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What are the most common questions that people want to meet Guruji for? Guruji gets how many? Return notes. What is the return on them? Either it is job, finance related, relationship, marriage or it will be health related. Fourth will be say, okay, ****. When you came to ashram, how did you decide, okay, now I’m going to go and just be there in the ashram? Yeah, so there’s a long story to that. How did you become secretary? In this path, your needs will be taken care of.
but may not be your greed. What does the work of a secretary involve? There is nothing like job satisfaction. Seva gives you satisfaction. What are some of your observations? What brings glory to his work is the opposite of it. When Gurudev meets anyone, when he meets someone, he is there with them 100%. Share with us some Guru story, a miracle that you have witnessed. When you are around him, you are living in that miracle zone. What about some troubled soul like mood -pissach? Gurudev said, no way.
Acceptance. Many times he says that we this acceptance point very early.
Cheers. Vishalji, welcome to the show. Thank you. How are you doing today? Good. Can you briefly introduce yourself for the audience? Yeah, my name is Vishal and I’m an engineer. I graduated from IIT Delhi. I did electrical engineering and then I did a double masters in nanoscience and nanotechnology from Germany and Netherlands.
And then I came to the real Master, Gurudev Shri Shri Ravishankar Ji. And since then I’ve been staying at the ashram, and Art of Living ashram, and I’ve been doing different seva’s at the ashram, different roles. Also Art of Living teacher.
You are an IIT Delhi graduate and then you have done double masters in nanotechnology. From that to spirituality, leaving everything and coming to the Art of Living International Centre in Bangalore. What was the thought behind that journey? So, I would say it’s leaving, it getting everything actually. So, I had done this Art of Living course in my first year in college only.
I was looking for something that can help me improve my focus. So that’s when I did this out of doing course and it helped me. I my focus improved my grades improved but the more interesting thing was after doing the course my parents they noticed that my anger also reduced. They were very curious that what have done? Your anger has these days.
So then they also joined the course after that. So that was the beginning into out of doing which was like 2002 beginning. And yeah then I was I was practicing and I was into it a little bit already.
Then after my final year or rather in my final year, you know when you are in your college and you are in the final year and then you have interviews and the interviewer you prepare for your interviews and then the interviewer asks you that why do you want to join this company and when you making this preparation. So that time I was you know to prepare for this question.
I was thinking to myself that why do I want to join this company? what is the purpose? Is it all the herd mentality? So these are like pressure questions. They last only till the interviews happen. After that once you get a job or then it’s all physics out. It doesn’t matter. You go into that mundane rut. So that happened again at the end of IIT. I was really thinking…
Why do I want to join the company? What is it that I want to do? so at the end of my… towards the end of my final year at IIT, I did one advanced course at Rishikesh that time and Gurudev was also there and he was meeting people. And first time I saw Gurudev and I asked, the ashram? So Gurudev looked…
He said, yes, what do you So I said, I’m studying. He you’re studying now, Let’s see. So I was little actually to be honest little disappointed that man. I used to think, Gurudev knows and he looked as if he doesn’t know and all that happened. So then then I went to do masters and then
did all those things. And then after that when I came back, like I went to Netherlands, I was placed in a company and I had a job. So I had thought that, okay, I’ll come to India for some time and then, you know, meet family and do some seva and then go back and join the job.
So when I came to India, I did one more advanced course and that time again, that time when Gurudev was giving darshan, so then he came to me, he said, yes, where were you? So by that time I had forgotten everything like, where were you means what? I was even doubting, did he even ask this question, where were you? And then, yes, what your And then, so yeah, so
more things happened and then I landed up there at the ashram. One step back, you did your first course, happiness course in first year of IIT. Usually engineers and people who use more of their left brains, they might stay, they are ignorant or just run from far away from the creative or spiritual kind of things. How did you do your first course?
No, I wouldn’t say that people who are intellectual or logical, in fact, intelligent people subscribe to such things, you know, because it is very logical. If when I’m doing something, when I’m doing my job, everyone agrees that you can’t be like 100 % focused all the time in whatever you’re doing.
you definitely have a scope of increasing further. No matter at what level you are, you definitely can improve it more further. And this I could notice that there was a difference. So when I was studying for IIT in my class 12, at that time I noticed this, you know, when I used to solve my problems. So the days I would do some yoga,
that time I hadn’t learnt any meditation but I would do some yoga and asanas then that time when I would solve a problem I would be faster and I would not be making silly mistakes so at that time I had thought that I know you know I want to learn something find someone who can teach me to handle my mind better
to be able to focus better. So I wanted to learn. was looking for something like that. the desire had come and you that and you yourself wanted to search. It wasn’t imposed by anybody else or suggested. Yeah. Yeah. You’re actively searching for that. I was kind of actively only. Yeah. Kind of you can say. Yeah.
Because I saw this difference. Like… Yeah. So I’ll share one example, you know… The night before my IIT exam, I was not able to sleep. I was so anxious. Because, you know, I’ve spent two years studying for this and the main juice of that is next day. So, you have to perform. that there so much pressure.
and I couldn’t sleep. So I had to take half a sleeping pill. My parents said, no, if you don’t rest, then how will you perform the next day? So they gave one half sleeping pill, then I could sleep. And then also in the exam, there was a there was a question. This is the IIT main exam. There was a question, something about like a hemisphere was there and some water is there, something is there. And then I had to
find the area of a circle and integrate it. So, so when I was solving the problem, wrote the area of circle. I two pi R. So, you know, in class eight, we studied area of circle is pi R square. And now I’m doing IIT and I wrote two pi R and I solved the whole 10 marks problem writing two pi R say,
So, you know, just that presence of mind, time, right thought at the right time. So definitely I felt that there is a lot of scope of improvement and.
then you did your first happiness course in IIT. How was, what changes did you observe in that and how were things around you?
Yeah, my the semester in which I did this was my second semester, the semester which I did the course in, in that semester, that was the highest SGPA that I got in the whole IIT term actually. And yeah, my grades improved. That very year, I also went to represent IIT in athletics in 100 meters.
So in first year representing and going for inter IIT sports, that was a big deal there actually. Because IIT people are like all are very studious, being, you know, being able to participate in different activities, that also was a big change that I could. And how would your friends react in IIT Delhi? Your hostel mates or college mates? Yeah.
friends would initially though you know one friend joined with me that time and few also few friends joined and many when we came back they were like yeah Babaji Guruji Namaste they would make fun basically yeah but then later at the end of the day they also realized no no this is something good and they would also ask okay
How does it help? They also saw this difference. Once I remember, I was doing this DSN course and I used to leave the hostel at 12, 4 am. I would get up at 4 am and come back at 12 at night. And that was for 3 -4 days fully. And all the people in my wing, were like,
on energy level is so good yaar you are so energetic how do you do that? this was little later of course 1 or 2 years later but
After you graduated you did your advanced course and then went to Germany or Netherlands? Advanced course I had done that was my third advanced course. First Germany, yeah. First year was in Germany and second year was in Netherlands. Why did you choose nanotechnology?
So…
bio, it was actually bio nanotechnology. So there were two, three reasons. One was there was a scholarship for that. And I mean, I was getting that and it was a little on bio biomedical side. So that also, although I had not studied, but it was a little interest. And third was that my girlfriend was there where my study was. So, was that the main reason?
Yeah, that also was, yeah, that was actually probably at that time, yes, the main reason. So, they’re not just one, went for another degree, double masters. Yeah, no, so this was actually one thing, it was a double Erasmus Mundus, double masters. So, it was a package kind of Package, double masters package.
two years may double.
So, how did that knowledge benefit after that?
After the IIT. okay. How did nanotechnology help me after I came here?
Well, you know, after the nanotechnology masters, even my job in Netherlands was consulting, technical consulting. So that also was nowhere related to nanotechnology as such. But the general aptitude and the exposure that you get to the audience and people, that’s what we take away usually.
That’s what in IIT is everywhere. 90 -95 % of the people what they study is not what they do. Approach and the attitude to solving problems is what you learn.
When you came to ashram, how did you decide, okay, now I’m going to go and just be there in the ashram? Yeah, so there’s a long story to that.
So like I was sharing earlier that so on one time one side I had this job which is there. Okay, you would have all the amenities and accessories and luxuries in life. But you know while I was studying there, although as a student as a student I was like the best kept student kind of know you have a scholarship you have everything usually.
The scholarships is like 6 -700 euros but I was getting like 1600 euros. So whatever I wanted was there at least as a student and you know although everything was there but there was some kind of a vacuum that I felt inside that okay all this is fine but there is something higher in life there is something bigger in life. So
That’s what I was kind of seeking.
And when I came here and I met… I actually did a little bit of spiritual shopping also. I did like Bipashna and few more things. But when I met Gurudev, it was different when I was in the environment. So that’s what inspired me. Then I thought that, you know, spending time around Gurudev and being in this energy,
Okay, 10 years down the line, how do I want to see myself? On one side, I see the people who interviewed me. Do I want to become like them? Because in a job, if I had joined, I would probably be after a few years, like how they were interviewing and I would be like them. Or I want to be like someone who interviewed me here. Few years down the line, how people are. Do I want to become like
these people or I want to become like those people. So, even after IIT, it takes a lot of courage to
to follow something that is that everyone is not doing, you know? Yeah, exactly. Because it’s so many years of practice, you you prepare for the entrance exams, your whole childhood you have been said, or usually you hear that you should aim for IITs or IIMs and grow up and do that. So until that point, your mind was always being prepared to get an IIT, get a good job, settle outside, and then dropping everything of that of so many years.
the thought pattern and just coming to ashram and a new track that you hadn’t actually thought about or heard about before. No, see here again that till IIT or that knowledge part is one, but after IIT you take up a job which is usually not linked to what you have studied. At least in IIT is 90 -95 % of people. They are not like a mechanical engineer.
maybe only in case of mechanical or computer science people, they may be doing their job. But otherwise, everyone is probably doing a software job or a managerial job. So it’s not related to what you have studied. Now, the difference here is only that there it’s very well structured. Okay, you will join a job, you will get a certain package, you will get every month some money.
This is what What is You get certain money every month and you keep doing some job for someone whom you don’t know. And here it is, you still work, you still do some things, you contribute to people’s lives and you work towards a goal or you work for a person who is, who you feel like working for or
do a project or things that you feel like contributing towards. What were your thoughts on money at that time? Because all this secure life and package what the society deems as secure. Everything is there, you’ll get everything. And coming to a life like this, where you don’t know where it is going to come from. And it’s all it’s so much like a service or a NGO kind of work. Correct. Correct. Yeah. So that’s what my
This dialogue I gave to my mom, actually my teacher had told me this that in this path you will be your needs will be taken care of but may not be your greeds.
So needs are taken care of. Greeds may not be. But if you see there are no, there is no limit to greeds. No matter what you get, greeds just keep going higher. Some greeds are taken care here also actually. But you have, you should be, you, if you’re ready to let go of that, then it is. And what did you tell your parents?
I gave to my mom, I gave this dialogue that mom, my, my greed, my needs will be taken care of, but may not be my greeds. yeah, mom was quite shaken actually. Dad was still okay. Mom was shaken that she studied so wrote and did IIT. You so much Euro, earn, you will home.
and now he is gone so I will wash the
And the fun fact is now even they have come here.
What were the sevas you were doing after you joined here? So initially, yeah. So when I joined, I was working in the youth desk with my teacher, Baba. Me also. So Baba was my teacher. wow! I did the first course also. Baba had come to my hostel and we had a satsang, an introductory session. Baba and Swami Brahmateji.
They both had come to the hostel and there was a satsang and then I had joined the course. So I was working with Baba and got trained for youth courses and stuff related to youth. That was initially. Then I joined the events at the ashram. You know all the ashram events right from
the courses and like Navaratri, Shivaratri and all the other every week there are courses at the ashram. Basic course, advanced course, blessing course, all the courses. You know why I am smiling so much? Because when people who are not associated or don’t know about ashrams think about ashrams that were shown in drama or some other series like that like it’s a jhopdi hey and there are people who are just sitting around and
There’s nothing much. But can you tell the audience what actually the art of living ashram is like? There’s so many departments and so many things happening here. Correct. So ashram, you know, I had written this blog also. In my blog, I had written this. ashram is like a university where there are nursery classes and primary class and
secondary class and then PhD. So ashramites, some may be interns, some may be PhD students and Swamijis are like professors, then there are visiting professors like Swamijis who come and you learn, you get to learn about yourself. That’s the goal of this research. And the ashram here in Adolwing Ashram is like a
very active place where every week thousands of people come and you have to take care now if thousands of people come they will eat here they will stay here so preparing food for all these people there’s a kitchen department stay they will stay here there’s a housing department then they’re eating here they’re staying here but they will be doing some programs they’ll be doing something right so that’s the events department
taking care of all the events that happen, the different courses that happen. Then there is teachers who come and teach. So there is coordination involved there. Then there are visitors who come. Thousands of people come on weekends. So they need to be shown. They need to be given information. This is the information department. Now to coordinate between all these things, you need the administration.
So like that ashram has like 60 departments. And yeah. And it’s like a mini township, right? Everything you can get inside ashram from clothes to food stationery, everything. You don’t need to go out for anything. Yeah. From clothes to cows. There is agriculture also. Growing your own vegetables. There is hospital here. Gaushala. is milk.
Then there is software, software and IT department. All everyone needs internet connection these days and everything you name it. Real estate is there. Then tourism is also there. Designer, I just heard about the fashion institute opening up. Then this RDP, rural development programs.
Then, yeah, lot of rural youth are brought here and trained to do simple skills, trained in different simple skills. Like, that’s the need of the hours, Like, more MBAs are not really needed now. There are enough of MBAs, but are there enough plumbers? Are there enough electricians? So, we need people trained in that.
Are there enough nurses? So many people in old age. leave… Kids leave their parents and… Who will take care of the parents? They look for nurses. Who will take care? Reliable, good, trained people. All that happens. And even schools. There’s like adopted children from Northeast and other countries. Thousands of schools across India. And that is also being managed here.
Yeah.
So, Art of Doing is an international center. mean, the organization is working in 180 countries. So, all the management work happens here. So, that’s another department for coordinating all those activities around the world. Yeah. There’s lot of work. Multinational organization. One of the top NGOs in the world, I believe. Yeah. Most efficient. Guruji was saying that 100 % projects get complete.
WTO president was asking him how does… how do you project your 100 % success? That’s the thing. The people when they come here, they are driven. They come with that ownership. That’s their… Beautiful. So then how did you become secretary? Secretary is just one fine day. Gurudev said,
I said, we events because he had told me that, to me events. Okay. So then what do you No, he said, so you can the secretariat now. So I was like, okay. Then he was like, but you Kannada. I said, I’ll So, so yeah, I had to learn. mean.
Yeah, still learning, still learning, but yes.
What does the work of a secretary involve? It’s like in a seva only, you present in morning, you reach to Gurudev, report and then yeah, plan his schedule. I mainly I don’t travel much with him, but see the appointments here, whoever has to say, people have to communicate to him.
He has to communicate to people. He has to plan different departments to other people. All that his phone phone calls messages email all that.
So there’s a lot of information load from everywhere. And you have to filter and bring the relevant things to me.
Being a secretary to Guruji is like being a secretary to any Prime Minister or President of a country, right? Or a top President of an MNC. Because the level of information he receives across the world, from all sectors, from all backgrounds, that must be a challenging task, not an easy one. But that also he takes care.
He’s not like a boss boss. That’s the difference between him and the probably the MNC. And you get to be in his presence and his energy.
What is the most challenging part of your book?
Challenging? Yeah, you have to say no to people. People who want to meet Gurudev and you have to say no to them. And yeah, it’s challenging. You can’t tell them the reason. No, but why? Why can’t you manage? You can’t. You can’t. That is a very challenging part. Yeah. So how do you say no? No. Usually, yeah, we…
Yeah, we don’t face, we said, no hairning. Yeah, otherwise when you have to talk, you tell them no, not possible. You have to be firm.
What are the most common questions that people want to meet Guruji for?
Yeah, most common and the only questions either it is job finance related. Next will be relationship marriage related or it will be health related.
These are the three baskets. Everyone falls in one of the three. And then fourth will be say, okay, say by related or service and projects and things like that. then fifth are complaints. That’s it. So which of them gets more priority? No, it in. Yeah.
That’s… It’s not the thing, it’s the person, people who are meeting majorly. As in? As in who would see people who are… So, Gurudev says three things, huh? Purity in heart, clarity in mind, sincerity in action. So, people who are more into that,
And actually who gets the priority if you say then service, those who more in… You only say, what will you like to promote? To keep solving their problems? To keep solving their problems, this whole knowledge is that. All Gurudev’s knowledge you apply and you see in your life, there is no problem.
Right. So at least the one who is serving others and who can reach out this message to more people, the same message which can help people from relationship problems, financial problems, health problems. So why not attend to that? So those who are more involved in seva, those people are more are definitely given higher priority.
Okay. So for the three FAQs that you get, what’s a common answer you would give to everybody? Like specific FAQs and their answers? For? Job related? Job and finance related. What is the most frequently asked question and what is the answer for that? Job and finance is usually that, one thing is that you are If you not getting a then apply.
Apply for Then some people have a problem of choice. My job is or there. Should or there? So see who has more salary and where the salary getting Because see it is very clear. Job you are doing for salary. Job satisfaction there is nothing like job satisfaction. gives you satisfaction. Job will not give you satisfaction.
Job is to fulfill your needs. So you do a job so that you get money so that you can fulfill your needs. You do seva for fulfillment. So then you see how much time you want to give for job, how much time you want to give for seva. So there is a balance in that and then how much money you are getting. So time effort and money, how much time and effort you’re putting and how much money you’re getting.
You see on those basis that you job and how much service do you want to do?
Sometimes some people say that their skill is very high and then they do little effort and they get a lot of money. So then their seva could be you can donate money. And some people their job is just to sustain there and then rest of the time you can utilize to contribute to people’s lives. So that is a little subjective. So such things can be
Actually, it need not go to Gurudev. Such things can be handled by teachers, out of being teachers or Swamijis or Kaalgyanis, scanners. Gurudev has made so many these scanners who can guide you. What is a scanner or a Kaalgyani? No, it’s something of your past, for future, they can tell you. It’s all there in the space.
and they tell you things happen like that. Many have shared like that. And many have shared that, what you are saying is exactly what Gurudev said. So it’s almost like that.
So is it like Astrology?
Astrology is more on science and on but this is on more on intuition and based on that. Like how would Guruji would do? How would Guruji? Yeah, it is Guruji’s energy only. It’s almost like what Guruji would say. Great. So they can reach out to Kalgyanis. Yeah. Scanners. For jobs. So we were talking about jobs and finance.
So any other question you get in jobs and finance? There job, then there will be some issues, land issues. So a mix of finance and family relationships. that… some land papers or family dispute and court case.
That also is finance. Okay, that may be a separate basket. How about stress related to finance, maybe loans or disputes, legal disputes? Correct. So what is the answer for that? No answer. You have to look case to case what to do. The second basket is relationship. What are the most FAQs in relationships and what is the answer for that?
Relationships is… marry or not? That is the most common.
So, one has to make their own choice. Yes, again, one can get guidance. Sometimes people are disillusioned and stuck up in attractions and not seeing life practically. Sometimes they are seeing it very practically and their parents are not able to. So, standard questions when people come to Gurudev are this one is,
both the parents agreeing. Guruji Ulaas. Do both parents agree? Then, do agree? And then, do Then, choice is yours, blessings are mine. But then of course, there are many different people need different guidance that is there. Because some people, they are not sure, some people
Compatibility may not be there. So there are different solutions to that. But basically… Basically if people are meditating, are doing their sadhana, they are doing their kriya, listening to knowledge, then people intuitively they only will get the right things that they need to do. So one is, should or not?
Other one is that there lot of going on. After marriage, there lot of going on. how do we solve that? How do we resolve that? Meditate. Do your sadhana. Serve. Do seva. Listen to knowledge. Attend satsangs. That solves most of the times. Get your habits right. People have non -veg.
drinking, alcohol, all that.
That is for the disputes. A marriage is not going well. Yeah.
And what for should I marry or not marry? Should I marry or not marry? In general in life. Whatever the efficacy is you get. Correct. So one sometimes it is people are not sure whether I should marry in life or not. So Gurudev asked, do you in life? Not in do you want So that is a personal choice. If somebody wants to marry or not marry.
that they have to choose they have to decide and then
So there are many Pandora bags in box. So you have to or not? How do I find? You find for me. How would you answer that? Yes, you will it. Do it. Keep
Keep and you will compatible people along So relationship, the goal should not be the relationship. There should be a higher goal that you heading for. once your goal is something higher, then you both are compatible towards the higher goal and you both are moving towards that higher goal. on the way you get along.
together. Example of a higher goal? Example of enlightenment or Gurudev ka seva. One or it could be anything. I want to, you know, podcast, which millions of people in this thing, some higher goal and where other one is also driven. So, relationship is not a…
goal. it’s a side thing. Basically a partnership to do some bigger project. And this is like add on relationship with add on. Partnership. Yeah. Yeah, that works well. That’s more compatible.
Suppose people are from different professions. Yeah. Then then also, okay, I mean, if in case of love marriage, I’m saying, but yeah, if it’s a arranged marriage, people have their own profession. That’s fine. Yeah, it’s about just compatibility then. And how, how much time should one give to find out compatibility or first commit and then figure out
Yeah, that’s why this is the question between love marriage or arranged marriage. Some people come and say that we love marriage only. Gurudev bless us.
Time is a personal thing How find him? Where you him? Will in dating sites? I doubt. The one who wants will come. You just keep doing your work. And the one wants to will meet. What is it? Keep focus on Look, the one wants to will come. The one has karma…
The ones who are who want will come in Keep faith and your work. And pray.
This thought might reduce the pureishness.
Yeah, that’s why again sadhana sadhana karo, knowledge suno
There’s a question that how much efforts to put in it and when to stop. For relationship? For finding somebody or trying to do something. There’s a point that I mean without taking any action also nothing is going to happen. But taking action when it is too much then how do you know if it’s too much or when to stop? No, without taking any action what is the action you are taking? Looking for somebody actively.
So what do you do in that? So people might go to sites or like there are these, hathavling also has a matrimony place or go to events. I don’t know what people do, but these are the things that they would do usually. Yeah. So not do any of these or no, just keep doing. do apply your name, put your name in the matrimony and yeah, if somebody gets along, you talk to them.
I don’t have much experience in this. Alright. So what is the third basket? Third basket of? Guruji’s FAQs. FAQs for? Health. So what are the FAQs? Health is generally blessings only. Blessings are if the Guruji gets well. And it works. And blessings are made by Guruji.
Sometimes there is a dilemma that he the operation, doctor is saying this, he this, he should that. Gurudev says that do the doctor says. Professional advice.
The fourth basket was a SEWA, What does the FAQ on that?
That’s all. It’s just an excuse to meet Kozhi.
What about the questions? Okay, you have of the whole security rate. Okay, everyone also, right? Yeah. You can share this clip. We short clips of You can just share that.
So then I’ll answer You tell me what it was. It’s now, right? Yes, four baskets. Relationship. The first case was whether to marry or not. Whether to marry or not is the first thing. See that the parents of both sides to The horoscope matches. You both…
willing, then move ahead. Then, if there is a problem in like the horoscope doesn’t match, everyone is parents are but the horoscope doesn’t match, then they Gurudev, then it happens. Means, if you have known each other for some time, 5 years, 10 years and it’s okay, or if the is then it’s okay. Then, second is, have to you are not getting
For this, put your name in the site, don’t be too picky. Don’t be so picky, this should this, this love marriage, this should behave this. Don’t too picky. Just basic things should be compatible vegetarian, drinking, etc. What There are disputes among If then?
meditate. Meditate, your sadhana, listen to knowledge on both the sides. are whether to finally divorce or not. First, to marry or not, then whether divorce or not. What there that 100 % and if it doesn’t work then move But 100 % then…
This is what happens in Is anything else? Yes, to marry or not marry. I it. Okay, in general, whether to be a Brahmachari or to get married or not. that, there are two -three reasons that we get married for. One is progeny. You… Re -creation. Progeny. Progeny. That you want to be a father, you want to…
take care of a child and there is an innate desire inside that I want to see someone grow and that and then they will take care of me when I’m old so that thing is also there kind of security. Second is companionship that you will have a companion whom you can talk with and third is
physically sexual needs so yeti means if you can manage then it’s fine on the other side each of them have their own repercussions also so there are pros and cons you want to take care of a child
It’s a project, then you are fully engaged in it’s like a 20 year old 20 years project commitment, commitment. you have to take care. You will not be able to do other projects. Other seva activities will be focused on one person. Companionship. You can get companionship otherwise also. Like
may not like not necessarily female or male or just that companionship is a feeling that you feel you can share with people. So you can feel that sharing and that naturalness anywhere. And physical needs? Physical needs. Yeah, you have to if you are have been meditation, have been doing meditation, sadhana, then these things don’t these things
even drop away, they don’t disturb you much
And reasons for becoming Brahmachari? So this is for getting married? And what about saying single? So these on these three factors, these three lines on these three factors, you can see that which of them you need or you don’t need. So it has companionship but it headache. It headache, you have to deal with it.
It’s not always good, you always share but then you have to listen also and you have to take care also and then physically maybe you lose energy and that energy can be utilized for higher things. So Brahmachari is that you can utilize that for higher things in the world.
So this covers the relationship basket. So two more baskets you want to go again over them? Which one? Job finance. That was done. I mean we did all three but if you want to go more detail. third, health. What was the The most questions you get asked or Guruji gets asked are about health. So it’s the same we only ask basically. What else is there Keep a good lifestyle.
Keep a…
Vegetarian food, sattvic food, fresh food, the right nutrients, that helps a lot. Exercise, exercising daily, that helps a lot. meditation, kriya, knowledge.
being positive.
Yeah. And then seva.
He gets so many written notes. Guru ji gets so many written notes. What is written on them? most of them? Like frequently written? Yes, fifth one is Complains and I love you Guru ji. The most known thing. I love you Guru ji. No, this written notes. Relationship, Job or Finance, Health.
Or Seva project. And thanks and complaints. Thanks will be also based on these only. Thank you, I got this beautiful job, now I have this beautiful relationship. So it’s all around these three things only. Right? It’s everyone’s it these three. Health, finance and relationships.
These are most common but what are some unique questions that you received and they are like very unique you never heard this before or something unusual even for Guruji. Yeah some blue starish things maybe some. Like what? No some energy came, got got stuck. Yeah. Some from other world.
things like that. What is the answer for that? No answer. what to do? medicine, get Okay. Yeah.
What?
There are different stratas of people that we visit Guruji. Right from Prime Minister Modi Ji to Governors of State to Local Politicians, Celebrities and somebody from the Farms, Villages. What are their questions? Let’s start with Politicians or people in high positions like Governors or Chief Ministers and Prime Ministers.
What are their questions? That is usually seva only service. They would say that usually they are very impressed by seeing the ashram and Gurudev’s work. And then they say that we do these projects and we can join with these projects. Usually politicians are that level. So for them one thing is it. And then next is their job and finance also. support us because he has a lot of influence.
But that’s an indirect way but that’s what they come for. finance and for projects. Not finance but projects only again. They also want support so that they can deliver better.
And what are the questions? What are the FAQs from celebrities or famous people?
Same. Three baskets. Yeah. They’ll be talking about or projects. Four. Like projects. They want to do this project with him. They make a film with him or or sometimes they’re health related or sometimes they’re relationship related. Or sometimes they, Gurudev, please bless that I get this project, this job.
Summary. Yeah, the is like this. Round There’s so much information and so many things happening. People from all around the world reaching out. How does Guruji manage his energy levels? Yeah.
That’s the wonder. That’s what I’m I’m also wondering and also learning.
The more that’s the learning that I have till now that the more natural you are, there is some higher power that just makes your life flow. So the more you are into the flow, that’s that’s that gives the energy I think. You are aligned, the more aligned you are with the nature, that much more you are in the flow and you have that energy.
and it gives.
Can you share some? He is in that he is the flow actually he is the water flow. waterfall. Yeah. Can you share some?
You are always in such proximity to Guruji. What are some of your observations?
Yeah, this is one, like I said, more natural, just being natural and uplifting, positive. One more observation is that any wrong thing, or suppose you want to scold someone or you want to complain about someone or you want to have like chips.
and not too healthy things which are not too good for you, but you have feeling like doing it. It’s not good for your health. So such things, you postpone. Basically negative things you postpone. And positive things you do it immediately. This is what I’ve seen around. Like positive things, example? Positive things like
praising someone or you know if you are hungry eating the right food or doing some action which is good for everyone do it immediately or meditating for example you are supposed to meditate now meditating so the positive things doing it immediately and the negative things procrastinating it
Usually we do the opposite. Positive things we say, we We have yes will We have to the meditation, yes I do this then we And negative things, If want we will and get angry. Right? if we call and postpone So, don’t any action
How many times does Guru ji meditate in 24 hours? I think he is in meditation. He is in a state where it’s… it doesn’t matter. But his lying down, his resting means sleeping or meditating. It’s everything is same. Or talking or working. But yeah, I think when he takes this noon meditations, common meditation that time…
evenings before satsang or in satsang also sometimes he meditates. So for him, for us we need like a discipline to get into that. For him he is meditation, he is in that flow, no? So whenever it is needed he will just do it.
So usually he does his meditation with everybody else. That’s what I see. he does on like in satsang. Before satsang he does his pranayams. He does pranayams, meditation. Meditation also many times he says, chalo abhi chau sab dhyan karte hain. And then morning before we come he does on, he does no, he does it. That is there every day after bath he will do a…
He does the meditation. Do what? No, like some puja or something he does. Like everyone he tells, no, Deep Jalao. Deep Jalake, he does a puja and meditates. Yeah, once morning, he does definitely. Before that, he won’t come down. He does the puja, he meditates, then he comes. And evening also pranayams he does. Noon meditations he takes sometimes.
So you get to do more meditations. I get to do more meditation? No. When I am around him, like normal, same. One question from management point of view. There is information overload from around the world. Billions of people are sending notes and information. Even the art of living organization is so big. How many people must be actively volunteering in art of living? Seva? Seet.
35 ,000 teachers are there full time full time maybe in India thousand so full time you are asking actively only 35 ,000 teachers are active teachers they have Sudarshan Kriya they take courses some may be active some may be inactive but yeah 35 ,000 teachers 60 departments one is in Bangalore ashram there are some 20 ashrams 20 ashram in India
plus internationally, think, 9 -10 countries also. 9 -10 ashrams internationally, outside India. countries. -10 or more maybe. 180 countries actively courses are going on. And different regions have different heads who look into these responsibilities. So there’s so much information coming from within inside the organization. And of course, there are other NGOs, politicians, celebrities.
people, international people, people from different industries, business industries. I believe so many people will be reaching out.
How does he deal with all the information? Through secretaries. So whatever is needed, the secretaries bring filters, most of it. And also he gets his messages and he makes people… Yeah, it’s so seamless that he manages.
But he is active all the time, know, phone. Every time he will finish this thing meeting and he’ll get up, he’ll just see his phone and quickly scroll through and pick up which is the important one. Intuition. That’s why he says intuition is his intuition is quite strong. Various. Yeah, very quite strongly like it’s ultimate.
So secretaries sort the information. One part. One part, but he also gets directly. His phone, email, messages, phone calls. Decision making is also a tiring process, Choosing between these two things or something like that. How many decisions does he make in one day? I’ve never calculated that, but yes, good question.
Every moment is a decision. That’s why he just flows.
few thousands I guess at least. So with intuition he is able to make which or what how much time does it take for him to take decisions? He did. Yeah. He’s this many times he knows what decision is already there but the problem is he cannot dictate his decision to people.
I don’t understand. As in, you know that this is going to happen and if I tell you, no, you do this, this is going to happen. He doesn’t work like that. Then? You have to come up with that. So decision is not difficult. That means people or people coming to that decision is the main. Main task. Yeah. Is the skill.
Krishna tells Arjuna that you are
What did he say that you do whatever you want to but ultimately you will do what I want you
So he knows.
You have taken many corporate and startup courses also. What are their FAQs and what answer would you give with an example of Guruji solving those problems?
Yeah, FAQs are same, like for example, you had organized that startup. And even the corporates. No, started up, were there, did anything come to you? So those are also from the four baskets only, to make the most of energy levels, how to advance, how to stay fresh. That is health.
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What are the tips for managing big teams?
Managing big teams.
not to be too controlling big teams I would say no you don’t need to control too much and at the same time you have to monitor and make sure that things happen in a certain line so there’s a balance there
and
Creating a positive trend, positive attitude, positive culture. Big team needs the right culture in place. So if the culture is in place, things flow in the right manner. Culture could include like meditation, Kriya, listening to knowledge. Like in our ashram, it’s there, Morning Sadhana, sometimes noon meditation.
then evening satsangs. It’s a good culture.
tips on finding right people.
finding right people for your business. This tip is valid. One tip is that first you be very clear with what you want.
the more you are clear with what you want
the more sooner the universe will bring it for you.
All that you need is more clarity. And how do you get the clarity? Meditation. Sadhana, seva, satsang, meditation and knowledge.
You had mentioned that Guruji is always in the present moment, 100%. Can you share some examples of Guruji being 100 % in the present moment?
or quest to read.
Say then if you can think of more, then will see. So this was, you know, once he was… Every day at the ashram, when Gurudev is at the ashram, takes… He comes for the satsang. In the evening, everyone gathers together, few thousand people. So one of the days, he was leaving from the satsang and there was a huge crowd, five, ten thousand people.
And he was waving at all of them. He does a lot of drama like show, yeah bye and I love you. He was leaving from the crowd and you know huge rush, lot of people. And then he is just exiting and then just at the exit there was again huge rush. So then there was one couple who had their kid with them and they wanted their
that Gurudev does the Annaprasna for their child. So Gurudev came out and as soon as he came out Guruji, Guruji gave that spoon with the Kheer in that.
So Gurudev took that spoon, then he did this
and then he fed the kid. So there was so much crowd, so many people were there. And in spite of that, he had this, you know, in that present moment, 100 % and then he was aware that, okay, this spoon is hot, it will be hot for the kid. parents didn’t know, parents did not notice that the spoon is or the keer is hot or the spoon is hot.
But Gurudev, in spite of all that, He had this presence and He did this act. So that was very touching. So, you know, every moment, every step, maybe immediately after that, the next step He did also was like that. Maybe I did not notice. So it is like this that every moment, every step, He is fully there, 100%. Like when people come to me and say, Gurudev, I personally.
But when he even in a darshan line, general darshan line, when Gurudev meets anyone, when he meets someone, he is there with them 100%.
Like he doesn’t think of anything or anybody else. Yeah. he’s talking to you, he’s only talking to you. He’s there with you only.
Yeah, I have experienced this myself when I was driving with him in the car. There’s so many things happening inside the car, but when somebody comes to the window and somebody is talking to them, he will listen to them with 100 % attention and properly answer to that question as if nothing had happened before. Correct. Have you noticed like this before somebody comes with a very serious issue, but when he’s talking to the next person…
You feel… Yeah, it’s fresh, again new, new, new, new. Being in that moment every time. We make lot of mistakes. Pretty sure everybody… He comes across lot of mistakes on day to day basis. How does he deal with the mistakes? Yeah, says, Gurudev says, you do as many mistakes as you want.
but don’t repeat a mistake.
So.
Yeah, once he had caught me also when he then he said his second time as he were. He has a full track of. You will not express it, but when the time is there. Once he said second time and then another mistake and then he said, Team Barker.
So he knows, but he’s compassionate and he gives you a long rope.
I mean somebody else would have just got irradiated, PC worker and this and that. Yeah.
He is like that. See all these points that we learn in the course, they eventually lead to the same thing. Being fully there, 100 % being in the present moment. Acceptance. So many times he says that he has this acceptance point. Now we to accept it. So the ashram, everyone to accept it. Whoever comes, has to accept it.
That’s why he says Ashram is like a zoo. It’s not like one herd mentality, one herd of cows. It’s all. There is snakes and there is cheetah and there is Balu. is dogs and there are horses and is cows. Everything. He that there are four raw, four rotten and four real
All types of are So what does Luche mean? Luche means goons. Everyone comes. Yes, mistakes, Luche. These art of living courses happen in prisons, in jails, and with hardcore criminals, with nuxels, with so many people who have done heinous crimes.
But at the end of it they are innocent inside.
So.
So, you know, he has this one beautiful A .G .A. of Gurudev is there with…
with Denmark criminals. So, and some other… So when he meets them, those people feel so grateful that Gurudev has come to their life and this knowledge has come to their lives. So their way of expressing their gratitude is like, Gurudev, you just name anyone, we will bring that person dead or alive to you.
Who want Tell We kill for you. How does Guru Ji reply to that? What? No. I mean this is just metaphorical. They also know that Gurudev… So for them, from their lives, like the most… the way to give back to somebody is giving the commitment. The style. Style. Their style of saying is like that. They are Gurudev. So basically they are going to… Guru Ji is to…
They want to go to any extent. Yeah, they’re ready for it.
And there are tough times and bad times even for him. Many projects that some violence is going on around the world. But there are good things also. So if we say about opposite things are complementary. that is what makes Gurudev Gurudev. bringing him… What brings glory to his work.
is the opposite of it. Example? Example, why do people appreciate Kriya or this meditation or this path, this… because of the stress of the chaos that other things are causing. So… or the violence, why is there value of peace? Because of violence.
Why do you appreciate peace of mind? Because there is disturbance of mind. Why do people come to Gurudev? Because of the outside troubles. it is like that you me so sad. me so happy that we forget you. There should life, difficult situation or problems.
Remember Guru is what
and about accepting situations. Yes, except… See, this was the World Culture Festival.
You know this World Culture Festival in Delhi, so if 11th was the program on 9th, these people, some people, they put a case that this land is a wetland and they cannot do program here. They were waiting till 9th because courts end there and they cannot take a decision. It will put on a stay and they’ll not be able to move.
So very intelligently they put it on 9th. So this tough situation but then Gurudev maneuvered and things happened.
And one of the, so the first day, it, so one of the, some of the trustees, the senior members, they come to, came to Gurudev and said, Gurudev, we have also as a backup, we have booked this indoor stadium with 25 ,000 people and all the performances can be done very nicely in this indoor stadium.
and it will be covered also with rain also if there is rain because forecast was saying there is rain and this is for the after the first day of the program for the second day and this stage was also a floating stage you know they needed to dig deep but they didn’t do that because wetland restriction or something like that
So the stage was like a floating, very interesting. So Gurudev said, see whatever you want to I will there and sit
I to Yamuna and sit there. And then it happened. People, everything… What was his reaction? Millions of people came. What was his reaction when he first heard about the news?
about which one? What was his reaction when he first heard that they have put this case against us on the 9th and they are going to stagnate it? Yeah, he knew some forces are there, some opposing forces are there. He maneuvered.
next action what action is needed all those things main thing is not losing the
And there are so many people who comment about him. They might be calling him by some upshifts or like giving names to him. the time. He just ignores. He doesn’t… So on this path, there are praises and there are insults. So you take them all together and keep moving on.
Focus on your goal and keep moving.
You have done Vipassana also. Before Sudarshan Kriya you had done Vipassana. What is the difference between Vipassana and Art of Living’s Sudarshan Kriya?
Vipassana is very the course was very intense actually I did it after the Sudarshan Kriya also I learned that Sudarshan Kriya and I did the advanced course in Art of Living and I felt that you know the Art of Living thing is not very intense enough it’s I wanted something more intense more serious and then I did the Vipassana and so it was more serious and it was more
grueling but that was that desire to do something more intense and all this was again a desire only and it was like a play of the ego so it it I felt a little again there also a little vacuum to be honest that
It was a little boring. Yeah, this was, yeah, the Sudarshan Kriya was more, when I felt more energy, more freshness, more lively, more natural. Yeah. So for some time I had like stopped Kriya and practiced this diligently. You know, you had to practice two times.
in a day Vipassana if you do Vipassana two times a day. Yeah, morning, evening, one one hour, you have to sit meditate and so I was doing that diligently I was practicing that but I will not seeing the transformation or results as such.
because life was okay. was a quantum is calm but little dull. It’s a little boring and done. was something missing there also. I then I came back to this career. I repeated a course.
Then after the course I felt wow man this half an hour of Kriya I start feeling so fresh so energetic lively natural I’m able to express what I’m thinking what I’m feeling and it was more lively more full of life
So then I thought that yeah this is better. This is more holistic. The question is
Maybe a little more compartmentalized that you keep your meditation separate, other spiritual life is separate, your regular life and job is separate and your personal life is separate. We can’t compartmentalize your whole life. They can’t be watertight. There has to be a mix of all.
So that’s what in Art of Living in Sudarshan Kriya, because there is a mixture Sadhana, Seva, Satsang. So you do your meditation and Sudarshan Kriya and those practices and there is Seva also integrated into it. You do some service activities, help people to contribute in whatever you can and then also knowledge, talking about knowledge, being with a group in the knowledge and talking, discussing, gossiping, gossiping.
Knowledge. Gau is knowledge. So that’s the more holistic approach and more relevant to the current times. know, Vipassana would have been the ideal thing in the time of Buddha because there the society was different. There was no mobile phone. There was no Instagram. There was no
The people were very well off and people had all the amenities they had. That’s why he gave them a begging bowl. You leave everything and you come to the come to serve or you shave your head and take a begging bowl because there was that was the kind of society that time. Now the society is different, different culture, different styles.
their people were still more Satvik. They would donate and they would do things here today. It’s Kalyug. It’s different. People behave differently and their attitudes and the whole society is different. Low. What is that? Low.
focus attention, attention deficient people can’t focus on more than 5 seconds, 10 seconds different society so different things, different techniques, tools they come out and then
What is LNB? LNB, Gurudev calls it Love and Blessings and it’s actually Liebscher Bracht. It’s a German person. Can you repeat the term? Liebscher and Bracht. So there is a German guy, technique, he’s brought this technique and it’s quite effective to relieve from pain. So it’s a pain management technique wherein
If anyone has any pain at any part of the body, we press at certain points and the pain gets released instantly. Mostly, 90 % of the times. And people feel very good. And then it’s followed up with some personalized tailor -made exercises for them, for that part of the body and that helps to…
sustain that pain -free living thereafter. people can visit you for ILMB treatment? They can contact the Panchakarma center, Ayurvedic center or Ayurvedic hospital. There also it’s available? There, It’s available and it’s going to become more common also. Sheru does some guru story or a miracle that
You have witnessed or seen? Miracle is just about seeing things. See, a brown cow eating green grass and giving white milk. It’s just about seeing things, no? You had heard this before? No. No?
Yeah, but he was talking about this in Astograha yesterday. What? About amazing how two people come together and give birth to a child out of nowhere. Out of nowhere. Yeah. So in Krishna’s time, they used to say that at Krishna time all the gopis around, they never noticed any miracle. Only after one year they would remember, yeah, this thing happened.
So when you are around him, you are living in that miracle zone and then it feels, yeah, this is so obvious. But then later you realize, no, was everything.
Yeah, stories like that happen every moment. So what was something that you realized later on that this was something? Everything like sometimes in a darshan line, he would suddenly turn around and he would go to, you know, there’s huge rush and he’s just walking out and we are like, really? Okay, he’s going out of the darshan. Now, suddenly he turns around, goes deep into the darshan and he meets that one lady. How are you? He says,
Then that lady was like, full out, she didn’t know what’s happening. Then he said, what is this? She said, ha ha. And then she gives that tiffin. Then later on, Gurudev said that she had made butter for me and for years she had thought that she will make butter for me and give it to me. So she had come to give it to me after years.
And then when the time came, she couldn’t give. So he had to turn… like there was so much crowd she couldn’t give. So he went specially to collect that. And even when he went to her, she was so out, zoned out that she didn’t remember that. Gurudev had to remind that… give… Things like this keep happening.
So it’s not about… more about the… Namaskar is not that here. don’t know. You need happens. That also happens.
But like what?
Thanks,
Once he came in the morning and he said, you water smell this water. So it was smelling of rose and taste and he said in the night this whole bottle became pink and there was whole Devi came inside.
And then she went in the morning. And yeah, like these so many things happen. So there are one class of people who want to hear about miracles and spirits. Tell us about spirits. Yeah, like the spirits and there are so many Devi Devatas who come.
So in Karnataka itself there is one temple there’s she talks and that so there are people who lift her and then she writes on something
So Gurudev was talking to her, kaise ho? Then she would say, aap hum abhi mile kyuni itne samay se humko? She would say,
and then, bulaya kyuni then there was one Appaji who was to come, he had a stone so that stone had a Devi and that stone would answer two questions like will this happen? Yes, if yes become heavy otherwise become late so the stone would become heavy or light
based on what is the answer for you what the answer devi is giving so and what about some troubled souls like bhoot pisach some things like that yeah bhoot pisach also
So there was this one story that
One some person this was when Gurudev was very young. Gurudev had shared this story. So he was very young and so he heard that some people someone who could cure cancer.
So Gurudev said, yes bring him, I would like to meet him. So he met him and then Gurudev said, how do you do it? So he said, I can teach you. So he wanted to become Gurudev’s Gurudev.
So he would say that I get this Siddha Purush, see Siddha Purush, they come to me and then I do it.
So Gurudev sir, I would also like to see.
So he said okay on this day at this time usually he comes.
So Gurudev, when he reached there, he said he just came. All the other people saw him also. But Gurudev came and then he left. So Gurudev said, okay next time. Next time also. he just came now. He will So every time Gurudev would go, it would not happen. But other people, it would happen. So every time he would give these excuses.
So once Gurudev said, no you have to, okay, you stay next to my room. On that day, Tuesdays he would come at this time. You stay next to my room and be there. I will come whenever. So he was there, Gurudev was there till night, late night. Then he said, okay, I’ll go to my room but I’m next door only. Whenever it comes to you, that time you call me.
So Gurudev was in his room and he was waiting and then just he probably had a little japki and in that he saw there is one very old person and he’s asking permission can I come can I come Gurudev said no way go away. So the next day morning this guy who was the who would cure cancer and all.
He came to Gurudev and he did a shashtang pranam. And then he said, no Gurudev. So the person who had come in Gurudev’s dream was this guy’s, the pasach of this guy’s guru. So he would cure people through that pasach. And then this cancer thing was getting cured.
but that would happen only for a week.
a week or two and then it would come back again.
So like that there are spirits which but it’s not a permanent solution
Hmm.
So there is some people who are interested in knowing this and there are some people who are like, what is these things? I don’t see it, what’s the proof of it? And they might think of this as like a blue star or out of the world thing, it’s not practical and things like that. So even for them, he does so many things scientifically, right? He’s a science graduate. And he’s reactively reaching out to people and trying to solve their problems. As you said,
that there are these just four or five baskets of questions that have, most of them have, and he’s reaching out to the scientific community, to businesses, to prisons, to veterans, army veterans, around the world and still getting and doing things. It’s not like just he’s engaged in miracles and all these things. Yeah, absolutely. Both, he has the both. The left brain and the right brain.
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